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Post by blueorchids on Aug 26, 2005 19:29:02 GMT
Basic lame rudimentary question.
When asteroids conjunct each other is that of any significance? Or must the aspect exist between the asteroid and a planet?
I read last night that Juno conjunct Juno could signify intense attraction between the inidividuals, yet have never read that for other similiar asteroids?
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Post by Amoroso on Aug 26, 2005 19:54:46 GMT
Not a lame question at all! Asteroid to asteroid contacts are valid, powerful and important!
Juno to Juno would mean a willingness and desire to form some kind of committed, equal partnership, based on house and sign. This can be between lovers, business partners, student/teachers, friends, relatives, etc.
We have a few threads on Juno somewhere.
Blessings, Amoroso
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Post by blueorchids on Aug 26, 2005 20:19:47 GMT
Thanks alot Amoroso. I read those threads last week. I just could not recall anyone mentioning having a tight Juno to Juno conjunction with another. I think I read on Marks site about the Juno to Juno being intense in terms of attraction... We have Sag 23/Sag24 (his in 5 mine in 1--I guess lots of mental stimulation required and always forthcoming...LOL) but we also have Aphrodite 20 and 19 Sag (same thing me in 1 him in H5) so I was not sure what to make of the asteroid to asteroid "bump and kiss". As I generally don't see them lining up that closely. House placement is interesting.LOL.
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Post by svenskasfinx on Aug 27, 2005 1:19:18 GMT
Hello everyone!
I suppose I could toss in some ideas about asteroids being in the same sign-- for example a Juno-Juno conjunction: The energies that these two objects represent express themselves in a similar way..
for example it wouldn't surprise me to know with two people with Juno in Sagitarius.. that they believe in a certain philosophical or religous belief system.. or expect a certain "style" in expressing themselves in committed relationships.. mostly inside the traditional but not always so strict considering that it takes on some of the same ideas as Jupiter/Sag in the 7th house.. (I say that because Juno is so related to commited relationships and marrage as well as contracts and fulfilling obligations.. it takes on a "7th house/Libra tone" to it)
Remember also that this Juno combination has been transited by Pluto recently, so it will tend to heat things up... more or less..
As for Houses.. His 5th house Juno and your First house Juno.. it feels more "in the body" thing or who you are.. and his Juno natally in the 5th house would tend (depending upon other planets and or objects there) towards wanting to commit to love.. or the fun part of love with a responsible kind of tone to all the fun.... with Aprhodite there it feels even more intense I suppose..even though these contacts are not THAT close, if you feel it chances are its in effect.
The meaning of your own personal Junos will translate to what you expect or want, and how you both act out this energy. I don't see Juno as very illicit.. but I do see a comon thread between Juno and Aphrodite: Jealousy! Both godesses were noted for their acts of jealousy and revenge..perhaps this also plays a role with one or both of you? Just remember there are other qualities that they both share also.. and that was just one I could bring up to mind.
there are more threads on the topic of Juno and Aphrodite around the forum; I'll try to get back and add some links..
Take care,
svenskasfinx
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Post by blueorchids on Aug 27, 2005 13:48:25 GMT
Thanks S!
I replied to this early this morning but must have done something wrong because I don' t see my post here now. I really need to lay off the Cheerios.
Yes you are correct that the Aphro and Sag conjuncts are 4 or 5 degrees away. I thought it was more interesting that both Goddesses were placed in our Sags and that each was only a degree from the others. I don't know him well enough, nor he me to know how it would play out. There is a pleasant ease in the mental stimulation, a good give and take with humor. Funny about jealousy. Neither of us present as such but you know those individuals are sometimes, ultimately the worst offenders, LOL.
It is interesting to note as you do that my Aphro and Juno are in my House 1 while his in House 5. I have Venus in 5 so darling, it's all girl, all the time .... He has no planets in House 5 which it is ruled by Scorpio though his Vertex is at Sag 13 there. In H1, I have mySag 13 Ascendant and then poor retrograde Jupiter so I am certain these matters would come into play as well.
I like how a conjunct Juno Sag seems to confer some sort of respect for freedom and equality. I feel feminine in this bond but not trampled in the least bit.
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Post by Jamma on Sept 7, 2005 23:30:50 GMT
Hello Blue, I also have Juno conjunct the SIG OTHER's Juno, at 24 and 22 degrees Sag, respectively ... And, just discovered his "name asteroid" is conjunct mine in his chart (20 & 18 degrees Libra) ... Do you (or anybody else) know if there's a significance to that? Thank you.
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Post by Amoroso on Sept 8, 2005 1:35:23 GMT
Dear Jamma,
There are several threads on the name asteroids on this forum that are quite revealing. We've all decided that they do carry significance, in Kim's words "like a red flag that helps you notice the other person."
My maiden name asteroid is conjunct my husband's Moon, and his last name asteroid is conjunct my Psyche. My Sappho is conjunct the name asteroid of the person with whom I've had the most intensely erotic experience of my life. My mother's name asteroid is in my fourth house, conjunct my Chiron/Eros conjunction.
See if you can use the search engine feature to find the threads.
Have fun! Amoroso
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Post by jamma on Sept 8, 2005 5:42:34 GMT
Thanks, Amoroso! ... It's fascinating to hear how the names work out so synchronistically... I'll try the search, although I'm not always great at finding what I start out looking for -- I get into reading all the posts and pretty soon I've completely lost the thread (Pisces Sun, Moon and Mercury, so what can I expect, right?) Cheers, J
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Post by blueorchids on Sept 9, 2005 15:46:48 GMT
Jamma,
Werlcome aboard!!
I do think conjunct JUNOs add a little energetic ump to a bond! The Sag thing certainly seems to create a freedom and spark thing but a respect too. There is a way of thinking moving that seems a bit similar that resonates for me.
S. is so right about checking the House where the Juno resides. I think that helps to put the pieces together of what it means to you. I have no planets in my first House other than Jupiter--but to have that with Aphrodite and Juno then have your Ascendant closely conjunct the Great Attractor spot --it's a little dizzying.
The asteroid name issue is also intriguing. Out of curiosity I went to plug in our birth name asteroids, and was very surprised. I am not certain that I was expecting anything but here is what I got instead:
In his own natal chart my first birth name conjuncts his Mercury and tightly trine his Neptune and his Adonis. My second birth name sits on top of his Sun (oh baby).
In my natal chart his birth name trines my Sappho, sextiles my Venus and conjuncts my South Nodes (thus opposes the NNode). This placement also closely conjuncts his natal Sun.We cannot seem to escape our Node/Vertex/Ascendant connections, no matter which way I turn my poor head.
As far as our own charts go: At 27 Aqua, his birth name sits atop his Venus, Chiron Eros Aqua 8th house powerhouse.
My first birth name and my middle name ---literally embrace my Moon in conjunction. First name at 19 Aries, Moon at 21 Aries, second name at 23 Aries. Unbelievable. I should mention that our names are somewhat uncommon which makes it even more fascinating.
PS---Interestingly my Tantalus is Aqua 22 and his Echo is Aqua 22 square my 22 Venus. My Pisces Echo conjuncts his Mercury...again.... LOL...
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Post by jamma on Sept 13, 2005 16:46:49 GMT
I read on a link from one of Kim's posts that Juno represents the areas where we are willing to "make sacrifices for the sake of the relationship" ... Would Juno conjunct Juno then mean that both people are making personal sacrifices to get together ... Or that being together creates a situation requiring ongoing sacrifice ... Any ideas? J
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Post by svenskasfinx on Sept 19, 2005 20:48:33 GMT
I read on a link from one of Kim's posts that Juno represents the areas where we are willing to "make sacrifices for the sake of the relationship" ... Would Juno conjunct Juno then mean that both people are making personal sacrifices to get together ... Or that being together creates a situation requiring ongoing sacrifice ... Any ideas? J Ok, I have some ideas, J: As I said previously a Juno conjunct Juno should feel particularly comforting because its the same VALUE system, so naturally in the same sign it expresses its Values, (moral, social, what ever you have concerning sacrifices made for partnership) And makes it THE SAME or EQUAL to "The Other". Where it differs usually is where the placement falls in the natal chart in aspect to your own planets ect.. so for example if you have a 5th house Juno, and its in the same sign as your partner's Juno, there is a romantic attraction to your way of expressing your personal "Juno vibe".. Its a good feeling to know that your version of relationship issues are the same or similar to someone you are playing a part within any commited relationship, wether that be a friendship, or even a buisness partnership, not to mention "long term commited relations"... Its one less thing to worry about, and to be honest, worry is not "sexy" --- ease and the ablity to understand that one person's values are equal and reflective and connected to the same values of what responsiblity is within a relationship... so naturally what you expect won't usually be in conflict.. so as the example, the 5th house Juno conjunct to someone else's 12 house Juno, although in the same sign may opperate differently, and you get to see the other person's differences in perspective, but in all respects the sign that Juno is in will probably be most important...and will express those values almost as naturally as breathing... maybe in such harmony that one doesn't exactly know where the other person's values end or begin because you both will activate how Juno is expressed for the each other. As with Juno in the 5th, this person's values will influence the more "showy side" of the relationship, where as Juno in the 12th would want to hide within relationships perhaps.. maybe thinking commited relationships were something strictly between only the two persons involved.. Juno in the 12th may even influence the person with Juno in the 5th to want to redefine HOW one experesses their Juno behaviour, where as the 5th house Juno person may be an influencing factor in really "seducing" a person into a commitment..or maybe influencing them that marriage or commited relationships need all encompassing attention and recognition and either way each person will have to sacrifice some of that version of Juno's expression to the other.. ....equally, but at the same time, it may not even feel in any sort of conflict... unless there are challanging aspects within each of the individual's charts in relationship to Juno. I hope that some of this gives you a clue to how a Juno Juno conjunction could function. take care, svenskasfinx
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Post by sopranokris on Sept 30, 2005 19:46:18 GMT
Interesting topic!
My guy & I both have Juno conjunct Pisces in the 4th house (we're both Scorpio rising). We also have Eros opposite Eros. Needless to say, this has been a very intense, powerful relationship. Add in the Pluto aspects and it has been a life-changing, mind-blowing experience to say the least.
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Post by Amie on Dec 29, 2005 7:43:34 GMT
A young lady moved into my house She is not my sort at all She eats nothing but junk Likes sport She biffs people She lies in bed all day watching soaps I am the opposite of all these But there is little call for rooms in this area But our Junos are con in Virgo Harmony of a bizarre kind It is also my 4th house
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Post by svenskasfinx on Feb 24, 2006 22:55:04 GMT
I thought I'd bring this thread up with a link to Myths and Arrows, as today there was an artical about "Hera" there.. (its quite easily interchangable with Juno) www.mythandculture.com/weblog/2006/02/top-blog.htmlI've just been trying to keep up with what I'm suposed to be reading ... EVERYTHING! Be well and hope its got a few clues to a few new ideas about Juno, or at least a key word or two.. be well all, svenskasfinx:)
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Post by Amoroso on Feb 27, 2006 0:15:06 GMT
Sven,
Thanks for the link. It's good to have you back and hope things are well.
Blessings, Amoroso
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