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Post by Amoroso on Feb 11, 2005 22:21:51 GMT
Please note the beginning of this topic under "The three Graces..." thread.
I wasn't going to pursue this topic for many very good reasons, but I became curious as to whether or not I had "Lust" connections with family and friends in addition to my husband and "Chico."
What I uncovered really blew me away, because it underscored how important it is to see how planets are aspected in one's natal chart to see how synastry is affected. This asteroid probably means passion or joy of any kind, not just sexual, as in "a lust for life."
Yes, there are multi Lust connections with my husband, but Chico's Lust is directly conjunct my natal Pysche, which is directly conjunct his Draconic Psyche. (Cancer, 9th house, within 8 degrees of my natal Venus.)
And my Psyche is directly conjunct my late father's Pluto, which explains a lot. (Puts my natal Venus conjunct his natal Pluto.) Now my dad and I loved each other very much but I did experience him as Plutonian more than Saturnian. Which explains why having Chico's Lust directly conjunct my Pysche has been so painful. It's bringing up many old personal issues.
In synastry with my husband, my Psyche is relatively unaspected to anything in his chart, although his is conjunct my Vertex.
Who knew that an innocent sojourn into asteroid Lust would reveal so much?
Asteroids in astrology continue to make facinating studies!
Amoroso
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 11, 2005 23:20:54 GMT
Amoroso, thank you for giving Lust its own thread!  I will get back here with more comments soon! Warmly, Kim |
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Post by moggym on Feb 12, 2005 0:24:43 GMT
Hi Everyone, Thank you to Amoroso for giving Lust its own thread, I think we might need it! As Amoroso mentioned, this topic began under another thread. So, to try to bring some of the forum members up to date I will cut and paste here what I have already written for the asteroid Lust. Most of it concerns chart data. Re: The three graces... a small amount of research « Reply #8 on: 02/08/2005 at 19:28:32 » <br> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi All, Was having a look at this thread last night and came across Amoroso's mention of the asteroid Lust. Out of curiosity I checked the position of this asteroid in my and my partner's charts. The results were very interesting!!!!!! My Lust is conjunct my Descendant at 27deg53" Sag in my 7th house, this falls opposite my partner's venus at 29deg44" Gem. His Lust is at 12deg Pisces, this trines his Descendant, and falls opposite my venus!!!!!! So, perhaps this asteroid does need some further investigation in the field of Synastry? Does anyone else have intense "Lust" connections? I apologise that it's a bit off the main topic of this thread, but I was very excited by the possible implications of the meaning of this asteroid. Thanks Everyone. Moggym Re: The three graces... a small amount of research « Reply #9 on: 02/09/2005 at 18:40:53 » <br> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, I have always wondered about an attraction I have to certain men with Mars in Pisces…and realized at this post that MY Lust would be there mid-Pisces as well. Interesting. I can’t find much out about this body. I know that Lust (#4386) was named for the family of a contemporary German astronomer. That’s about all. There is a (lengthy) article on the name asteroids and Lust in the charts of Bill Clinton et al. It’s worth a read. Jacob Schwartz has a good style and gets his ideas across on how these asteroids function in the natal charts! Read it here: www.newage-directory.com/cosmicbill.htmKim Re: The three graces... a small amount of research « Reply #12 on: 02/10/2005 at 08:11:09 » <br> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Everyone, Those are fantastic "Lust" links ScorpyMoon. Since my last post on the subject of "Lust", I've been doing some further research with the charts of couples that I have on my computer. The results were very interesting to say the least!!!!! The 1st couple (married, 3 children), His Lust is conjunct her Venus, and Her Lust is conjunct his Venus. The 2nd couple (live together, no children), His Lust is opposite her Moon, and Her Lust is square his Moon. The 3rd couple (live together, no children), His Lust is conjunct her Venus, and Her Lust is trine his Venus. The 4th couple (married, 3 children), His Lust is trine her Moon, and Her Lust is conjunct his Moon. The 5th couple (married, no children), His Lust conjunct her Mars and sextile her Venus, Her Lust opposite his Venus, and sextile his Mars. The 6th (and last) couple (married, 1 child), His Lust conjunct her Venus, and Her Lust opposite his Mars. Interesting huh?? On some of these charts I didn't have exact birth times, so, was not able to look at Asc/Desc/Mc/Ic etc. Also, to try to keep it simple I only looked at major aspects to Moon, Venus or Mars. Judging from the results of the above charts, and my partners' and my mutual Venus/Lust opposition (7 chart pairs in all), and ScorpyMoon's data, it would seem that "Lust" could play a significant part in relationships!!! Or, as Amoroso mentioned before on this subject - Lust means Joy, Delight or Desire. Three things I'm sure all of us want in our relationships. Maybe, good strong "Lust" aspects in synastry mean we get them? Thank you to Kim for posting that article link, it was a valuable resource. But, aside from that article, there seems to be very little available on this asteroid. I would love to hear from more people with "Lust" experiences or information about this topic. Thank you all for your time and thoughts! Take care Moggym Thanks Everyone for your time. Moggym.  |
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Post by chrissymgreen on Feb 14, 2005 19:53:17 GMT
hey there all,
amoroso, thanks for this thread!
i checked 4386 in my chart and in gordon's chart, and there are some interesting connections that echo some of the themes i have been pondering lately. i share a lot of aspects with him, for example we both have uranus right on the ascendant and we both have a mercury/eros conjunction. another thing we both have is a natal t-square. mine is tighter than his - my singleton sun pis 28°/6th opposes pluto vir 28°/12th, and my OOB moon sag 27°/3rd squares both sun & pluto. it's a major part of my natal chart and my psychological make-up, and i've learned through studying gordon's chart and the charts of other people i've been involved with seriously that i have always been very intensely attracted (platonically and sexually) to people who stimulate the empty leg of my t-square - the 9th house. gordon's moon falls in my 9th conjunct the cusp by 2°, and so does his 4386. his BML and vertex fall there, too.
gordon's t-square involves his moon gem 12°/7th opposing neptune sag 15°/2nd, and his saturn vir 7°/10th squares both moon & neptune. this makes the empty leg of his t-square the 4th house, and my 4386 falls there. my venus is in his 3rd house, but it's conjunct his 4th house cusp by 1°. my NN is also in his 4th house, conjunct the cusp by 3°.<br>
i've been thinking a lot about the impact of that empty leg.
thanks again for this thread, a!
sincerely,
c
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Post by svenskasfinx on Feb 14, 2005 22:01:45 GMT
Ack! I had a look and it does explain a few things I never thought of. My Lust 4386 is at 25 degrees Leo in the third house, this is kind of interesting because its conjunct my Photographia, exactly, which is BTW squared my Neptune.. It makes square contacts with my husband by his Mars/Varuna/Mercury/NN combination in Taurus. (His Lust happens to be Conjunct his Venus/Apollo combination in the 11th house Aries making at best opostions to my planets in the 5th house Libra-- Now this it the problem.. someone else happens to powerfully "activate" my Lust with a Pluto/Apollo conjunction exactly on top of my Lust... This same person has his Lust in his 7th house in the 10th degree Aries, (I think its also within a conjunction to my NN as well) squaring my stelium in Cancer!..(but I know this is only one asteroid and one aspect, but other things keep popping up and I'm getting kind of nervous)  Am I to run and hide and change my address? |
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Post by Amoroso on Feb 14, 2005 22:52:38 GMT
Dear Svenskasfinx,
Don't you dare run or I will scream! What do you think I have been dealing with for the last year?
Face the music. Find out what Eros is trying to transform and transform!!!!
This is not a job for whimps, and I think I know you well enough by your posts to know that you are not a whimp! Add something to Eros and Marriage if you can.
My heart goes out to you!
Amoroso
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Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 14, 2005 23:43:16 GMT
I have to agree with Amoroso! One of the unconscious agreements of this forum is to “face the music” as Amoroso said. We encourage exploration and do not support prolonged hiding or denial!
Still, I know I speak for all of us when I say, “I fully understand the desire to run!”<br>
Everyone is in your life for a reason.
Jung said, “We people our lives with bits of ourselves.”<br>
The task then, in this case, is to go forward and meet this part of yourself that is dressed up as “the other”.
And Chrissy,
It is SO OFTEN that we do attract others that “fill in the missing blanks” of our aspect patterns. It gives us a chance to see, first hand (or is that second hand) what the quality of energy is like. How does it act? What does it need, want and have to offer?
We can be enchanted by it, or repulsed—sometime we can swing from one response to the other. What seems consistent is that we are never blasé about it! (them)
Kim
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Post by svenskasfinx on Feb 15, 2005 0:13:11 GMT
Dear Svenskasfinx, Don't you dare run or I will scream! What do you think I have been dealing with for the last year? Face the music. Find out what Eros is trying to transform and transform!!!! This is not a job for whimps, and I think I know you well enough by your posts to know that you are not a whimp! Add something to Eros and Marriage if you can. My heart goes out to you! Amoroso the person in question shared something with me, a very special thing. a dream, and it told me HE is going through transformation.. I don't exactly know what Eros wants, but I do know my Eros is also opposite the other person's as well.. this is probably hard to resist.. *getting a hold of self* Charts can't make people get together, people have the free will do choose over that..  I keep telling myself.. but I have had some experiences in my life where that actually came out of the blue.. from an unexpected source, with a Mars conjunct my Moon.. and I thought, nothing will happen, cos he's Gay. I will never deny the power of attraction...even if temporary. Nature takes its course and eventually everyone is happy.. but my husband KNOWS everything.. and he doesn't like it..but he uses it in a positive way.. |
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Post by marie on Feb 15, 2005 3:40:40 GMT
Hi everybody! Long time no write on my part. I looked into the Lust synastry of a relationship with a man I know, and found some interesting stuff. My Lust is conjunct my Lilith and Part of Fortune in Scorpio at 29 degrees (that in itself seems to be a bit intense!!), and it conjuncts his Sun! His Lust is conjunct my Juno in Scorpio at 1 degree. So, we both have our Sun in Scorp. and our asteroid Lust in Scorpio. Not certain what this means, but one thing I do know, is that we have shared a lot of lust, and joy! Bye for now. Bridget Marie |
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 26, 2006 1:29:30 GMT
With Eros running side by side with asteroid Lust right now, I thought I might bump this thread!
Eros and Lust (Loost) conjunct on July 28th at 1 degree Cancer!
Comments?
Kim
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Post by Juliet on Jul 26, 2006 13:23:53 GMT
Well, they hit off my Lust/Psyche/Sappho at 1 Libra in 8 and that orgasmic thingy (2000 CO104) at actual Aries Point, but 'all' I feel is a wholehearted and detailed (Virgo) dedication to myself and my own goals and beliefs! I am like a snail these days, carefully rearranging my life, whereas I used to be an ant  . A passionate dedication that is! I've become so careful and loving with myself. Fine tuned, which is lovely and new, and which enables me to give a lot to others without feeling violated or too tired. Difficult Mars on Pluto weekend, but rest and sleep restored emotional equilibrium, and I realized that all the time while in the turmoil. Love to all, Juliet |
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Post by Kim Falconer on Jul 26, 2006 22:12:38 GMT
Oh Juliet! I am so 'there'! You have described my own feelings perfectly!
With my Venus a 0 Cancer, the transit seems to coincide with incredibly warm and self-nurturing feelings, abundant creativity and joy. The sun is shining! (and last night, I dreamed I was pregnant, full term and going into labour...and so surprised that it wasn't painful!)
Warmly,
Kim
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Post by Juliet on Jul 27, 2006 13:47:55 GMT
Beautiful dream... You are in a great place, Kim.
I dreamt I had an infusion from some thick sweet concoction, thick baby milk ;D, and I felt good about it, but I felt uneasy about it physically. I realized I would get used to it though.
The needle was in my left hand and I had to press a small pump on my right elbow to get the stuff flowing into me!
My dad supported me, but he did not take over.
I even went skiing with it! Freedom, sex...
Love, Juliet
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Post by alejoplay on Mar 15, 2007 15:55:30 GMT
I've got Lust conj. my Pluto (!!!) in Libra in the 3rd.
Noticed two of my romantic prospects have Moon-Lust connections with me. One of them has a moon in Libra conj. my Pluto/Lust. The other has Lust conj. my Moon/Sappho conj. in Cancer in the 12th.
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Post by ariesmoon on Sept 16, 2008 17:39:30 GMT
Here I am waking up another thread, just started looking at asteroid Lust and discovered it's at 19.26 Cancer in my chart. Sextile Mars at 20 Taurus, but otherwise no major aspects. Then I looked at my progressed Ascendant, which is 19.22 Cancer, so conjunct Lust by degree.
I write a lot about the Sabian symbols, and the one for 19-20 Cancer is just too good to miss for this - "Venetian Gondoliers in a Serenade". Lynda Hill says this signifies "romantic fantasy .. impressing people with joy, romance, fun and the wonder of life". It speaks of the need to be "pampered, cared for and transported to a place of romance". Oh, yes please!
From being a confirmed cynic about love and romance - a classic defence to keep it away from me - I've turned gradually over this year into someone who adores romantic songs, love poetry, and has let her romantic imagination drift away with her. I'll look back at when the AC progressed to that degree, but I imagine it ties in. It's a part of life I have avoided, out of fear, but no more. I discovered the band "Bliss" only today - the name itself is fabulous and highly appropriate. I had never heard them before, and was revelling in a glorious song which even a year ago I would probably have turned off if I heard it, to avoid it getting to me.
Coincidence that I fell in love (and lust) at first sight this year with someone whose Draconic Venus is on 19.26 Cancer? No. Thank you, Asteroid 4386!
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