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Yods
Feb 5, 2006 16:30:15 GMT
Post by legolas on Feb 5, 2006 16:30:15 GMT
Jade.
Yes I have a yod
A sextile of pluto and neptune,with the apex of a conjunction of venus and saturn.
If i may ask,did your yod gave you powerful(pluto)agressive(mars) emotions,reactions(moon)
I know this is a very simplified reading of your yod,but does it work out that way for you?
And what do you think of my yod,how could this work out for me,what is a possible effect of this yod?
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Feb 5, 2006 19:45:24 GMT
Post by legolas on Feb 5, 2006 19:45:24 GMT
Jade,
Thank you for the explanation and example of your yod,and the insights in mine.
I will look up coming transits and i will look back. If i will find something significant,i will post it here.
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Feb 6, 2006 1:44:06 GMT
Post by jamma on Feb 6, 2006 1:44:06 GMT
I'm so glad Yods have rolled around into the forum consciousness again ... I just read that one important part of the Yod is the "invisible" midpoint of the sextile, which opposes the target of the two quincunxes ... In my case -- the midpoint of of the Yod's sextile (Sun at 2Pisces59 ... Asc at 5Cap06) is 4Aqu03 -- opposite the focal point, Saturn at 3Leo21 in the 7th ... I don't have any planets/asteroids at 4 Aquarius, but checking the transits, I see that Chiron is currently moving across this charged point ... Is this why I've been feeling so funky (ear infection that won't go away -- Jade, could you please do some psychic surgery for me?) and mopey lately? ... An even tighter Yod results if I use TrueBlackMoon Lilith at 1Cap55 in the 12th for the top part of the sextile (more precise yet, if my space-brained math can be trusted, is the midpoint between TBML and Asc -- 3Cap36, but that would change the "invisible" opposition and just trying to imagine it makes my head hurt) ... As I understand it, our "life tasks" are indicated by the chart ruler ... But my Saturn in Leo in the 7th presents a conundrum -- how to express (Leo) Saturn via relationships/art (7th house, in addition to my Venus in Capricorn) while the Old Devil himself acts as a damper? With Saturn as the focus ("unfocus" would be more apt!) of the Yod, this ought to be the answer, right? Unfortunately, those quincunxes keep me from seeing what it is! Is the "invisible" opposition to Saturn in Leo a way in? (I know Aquarius' traditional ruler is also Saturn, but how would this work? ) ... Ideas anybody?? Meanwhile, I think it's time for an exedrine ... Jamma
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Feb 6, 2006 7:26:01 GMT
Post by jamma on Feb 6, 2006 7:26:01 GMT
Thanks, Jade ... lots more to ponder ... The midpoint is a stabilizer, eh? hmmm ... transiting Chiron as ephemeral stabilizer? ... guess half a bikini is better than No Bikini Atoll (courtesy Beanie and Cecil, for any other ancient beings here) ... For better stabilization, I guess I need a person to act as "permanent transit" ... Then, once I'm "in," I suppose I'll need to figure out what I'm supposed to do there ... Not that there's any rush -- on one site I read that Yods indicate tasks that "must be continually worked at but can never be completed" (a Yod-wife's work is never done!) ... xxoxx ... J P.S. Send that healing energy directly to my EAR -- don't let it get sucked into the never-ending Yod vortex! ...
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Feb 6, 2006 8:37:55 GMT
Post by Juliet on Feb 6, 2006 8:37:55 GMT
Still in pain, Jamma?? Funky and mopey could also be Saturn retro'ing close to that focal point at 3 deg Leo. But my Saturn in Leo in the 7th presents a conundrum -- how to express (Leo) Saturn via relationships/art (7th house, in addition to my Venus in Capricorn) while the Old Devil himself acts as a damper? Saturn is not a damper alone. The damping (no inkling if this is English, but it sounds nice) could work as some powerful incentive for structuring, change and action. Yes action, I believe in the end Saturn asks for action. He's my chart ruler too. Saturn transits are very visible in my life. Saturn through 4 brought unsafety in my home, incredible frustration and a healthy move as a result. Saturn through 5 saw me too busy to play, very dissatisfied with me not using my talents and finally picking up painting at art school. And after a lot of hassle a very nice and happy period in the relationship I had at that time. Saturn through 6 brought me serious health problems, and difficulties at work. I worked on my health first, difficult, very 'mopey' time, lots of worries. On the day Saturn went direct again, I got offered a very creative and fulfilling job. Saturn through giant 7 (it will be there for four something years) has been no party either, but I believe I've had the worst of that lesson (excruciating loneliness vs learning to truly care for myself) when Saturn was in Cancer. I know for sure it will bring me an important meaningful other. Sounds strange maybe. I sought a lot of help for these issues through the years. Might be Saturn-y too, to treat these issues like projects. Typical Cap Moon maybe. Get well soon! Juliet
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Feb 9, 2006 22:45:36 GMT
Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 9, 2006 22:45:36 GMT
Yods? Think of the 'table leg' metaphor, to start with. Keep it simple. The planets connected are 'scripted' to act together. You do one, you get the others--and the signs and modalities can suggest divergent needs or approaches. In the example of Pluto sextile Neptune ( a transit that was happening for some time in the 50's and linked quite strongly to a kind of intense passion and power around spiritual matters and longings), if both are inconjunct the Moon in Pisces, that Moon is 'caught' in the potent energies and drives of the outer planets. The inner world, the home and the emotions become a 'stage' for the 'delivery' of these energies. You don't 'do' Moon without evoking Pluto and Neptune---so simple things like baking cookies or writing a card to Mom become MAJOR events! Howard Sasportas said the Yod was like 'team ropers' when the steer is caught, head and heels, between the riders. Do you know what I mean? The apex of the YOD can't really 'move' until the sextile planets let it go... I think you have to constantly integrate the sextile into life in creative ways to free up the apex, and even then, as with all aspects, that apex will not function in isolation (unless the other points are projected onto someone else or something else). Like the quincunx (or 30 and 150 degree inconjuncts), it takes integration! If the apex is a personal planet, it’s a constant thing! But it isn’t always that foreign of a terrain. You might have Moon in Libra sextile Here is another metaphor for YODs by Molly Cliborne north-node.com/articles/september-2005The best encapsulation I ever heard of the Yod came from a sports astrologer. As a point of reference, she told me that great football players tend to have t-squares in their birth charts. A t-square is a very tense and powerful formation of planets. When they are in the sky, it’s a time when we have to power through obstacles, conflicts and turmoil, which challenges and ultimately strengthens us. People born during these times have conflicting needs or circumstances which require great strength and hard work to overcome.
On the other hand, great basketball players tend to have yods in their birth charts. A person who has a yod in the natal chart has a special gift, which takes some time to master. But once they get good at it, they are very skilled and capable. Basketball games have a much faster pace than football games. Yods in the sky signal times when we have to be like basketball players—creative, in the moment, quick on our feet, and adaptable to changing conditions and circumstances. Finesse is more important than brute strength with yods. I think that sums it up very nicely. Thank you Molly!!! Kim
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Feb 10, 2006 6:39:03 GMT
Post by butterfly on Feb 10, 2006 6:39:03 GMT
I really don't know what to make of my yods. June 17,1968 21:17 Iasi, Romania
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Feb 10, 2006 22:15:00 GMT
Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 10, 2006 22:15:00 GMT
Jade, The midpoint of the Yod would be the position of the moon and the opposite midpoint (between Pluto and Neptune). If there is a planet there, that planet joins the 'party'...or fray!
If a transit or particularly a progression falls on that point (near or far) you get an activation of the whole Yod dynamic. If it is the near midpoint, it would trigger the house between Neptune and Pluto, if it's the far midpoint, then the Moon's house is lit up! Events in those areas of life may trigger the Yod into action.
Can you see how this works?
Why not look back to the last time your progressed Moon touched off the near, and the far midpoint of your Yod. What can you recall about that month?
Butterfly, I don't have time to run your chart. Can you tell use the three planets involved in the Yod, the signs they are in and the houses. Then we can discuss what that might represent in you.
Thanks!
Kim
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Feb 22, 2006 0:46:18 GMT
Post by legolas on Feb 22, 2006 0:46:18 GMT
When my progressed moon was conjunct my apex venus/saturn conjunction in H7 of my natal yod,i met a guy,16 years old and this was the start of a new friendship and other new friends he was connected to,and my old friends slipped away into the past.At that time i was 20.This was a friendship which felt like really having a friend and we were unseperatable.Because of various reasons this friendship stopped when i was about 25(will have to look it up astrologically,but that's another story).Up to this day some of the mutual friends i still see and 'hang out' regularly and feel very connected to. Like Kim said,the apex doesn't function without the other planets,in my case pluto/virgo/H12 and neptune/scorpio/H3 Has anyone insights in how this yod 'works' in my case? I would really appreciate any insights!
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Feb 22, 2006 21:02:22 GMT
Post by Kim Falconer on Feb 22, 2006 21:02:22 GMT
I get the feeling this YOD 'works' out through 7th house, personal 1 to 1 relationships, at least in part. It is the focus point, and the release point, of the energy.
Ve/Sa in 7 says relationships are VERY important to you, something you want to work on and get 'right'...they may not be breezy too often, but they do engender much growth!
because Pluto and Neptune are activated as well you get these deities presiding as well as Saturn.
Pluto says the relationships must become a gateway into the unconscious where you will experience vivid and intense terrain--passionate, sexual, confronting, obsessing, regenerating.
Neptune says that the relationships you enter must also touch the godhead...they must evoke the divine. As Plato said, "in the eyes of the beloved, we recognize which choir of the gods we belong to. It's like coming home....the spiritual home.
So needless to say relationships for you, as the apex of the YOD carry some hefty requirements.
Can you relate to any of these themes?
Who else have Venus linked to these three gods?
Kim
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Feb 24, 2006 16:01:10 GMT
Post by legolas on Feb 24, 2006 16:01:10 GMT
Kim,
Yes,i really can relate to these themes.And i never looked that way to what you told about venus/saturn,thanks. Would like to say that in my case neptune is more dreamylike and idealistic,than divine yet.
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Mar 15, 2006 2:24:41 GMT
Post by azalaksh on Mar 15, 2006 2:24:41 GMT
I have a Yod -- an "enhanced Yod", or what I've read is called a Boomerang (is that right, Kim?). I have very little idea how I'm supposed to direct this energy and tension and I get confused trying to integrate the interps. My Moon at 26 Pisces in VIII is the Apex planet. I've read that it's only a "true" Yod formation if the Apex planet is the fastest-moving of the three, so I guess that applies. Neptune at 23 Libra in III and Pluto at 24 Leo in XII form the "base"; and Mars at 22 Virgo in I is the "release point" of the Boomerang (I'm inclined to allow the 1-1/2-degree orb for the semi-sextiles). Integrating the sextile of Neptune and Pluto by themselves is difficult enough, but tossing in the quincunxes to the Moon makes my eyes glaze over and brain shut down!! Can anyone help with suggestions on how I can direct The Finger of God to a useful purpose?? Thanks in advance!! 'Zala
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Mar 15, 2006 23:11:11 GMT
Post by Kim Falconer on Mar 15, 2006 23:11:11 GMT
Work in the occult! (That's my first response) Have you read Dion Fortune's "Moon Magic"? It was published posthumously in 1946 and to me I think Lilith Le Fey (the protagonist) had just such an aspect pattern as you describe. Of course, I'm speaking metaphorically... or am I? You need to travel the paths of the mysteries in life, research them, bring hidden meaning to the surface, bring creative change to society and in doing so, both practically and mystically, you are 'at home', comforted, nurtured. Does this make sense or does it seem too airy fairy out there? You're a mystic. How are you 'doing the work'? Kim
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Mar 18, 2006 1:58:29 GMT
Post by azalaksh on Mar 18, 2006 1:58:29 GMT
Kim ~ Thanks for your reply! There's very little that I consider too "airy fairy out there" ;D I don't really see myself as a "mystic" (an advocate of the theories of mysticism ) -- but the Merriam-Webster definitions ("mysticism") could definitely fit: 1 : the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality reported by mystics 2 : the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight) 3 a : vague speculation : a belief without sound basis b : a theory postulating the possibility of direct and intuitive acquisition of ineffable knowledge or power Long ago, I made my plans to work in the trenches -- ie, instead of going off to the mountains to sit by a river soaking up knowledge, I stayed in the city and work and rub shoulders with all the negativity (and opportunities for learning!) that encompasses. I buy extra copies of my favorite books and give them away to people I talk to who are searching -- such as the book "You-Forever" by the Tibetan monk T. Lobsang Rampa. People just seem to come to me and open up about their problems. Then they say, "wow, I never told that to anybody before." With the slightest interest from others, I will chat about my feelings on astrology, Carlos Castaneda on shamans, reincarnation/past lives, or any other esoteric topic that comes up. This is about as mystical as I get, but I don't feel like I'm off-track. Despite the Leo Asc, I feel I do better helping open minds one-on-one Perhaps I shall write one day..... it seems likely with my Libra Sun conj Neptune/Saturn in III, with Mercury in Scorpio in the 3rd too..... Thanks again for your observations! 'Zala
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Mar 18, 2006 21:00:52 GMT
Post by Kim Falconer on Mar 18, 2006 21:00:52 GMT
Well, Zala, you sound like a mystic to me! Kim
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